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« on: July 26, 2017, 04:49:55 PM »

Hey,

I picked this up on Monday after Portland. This is a bike that I saw at Oley back in April. It had been on my mind since then. The guy that had it lives outside of Buffalo NY. About 10 miles where I grew up. Today only about an hour and a half from where I live now.
He had it at Wauseon and thought he had it sold but the guy backed out...  Smiley
I guess it was meant to be. Grin
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2017, 06:24:57 PM »

Congrats on your new purchase1   Lovin' that breather! 
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2017, 06:44:56 PM »

X2 - Congrats ...

It looks to be pretty much complete . Nice find .

Pete . Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2017, 06:54:13 PM »

  "H" manual posted in Manuals section.
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2017, 05:46:51 AM »

Dave, you have caught the Portland disease! Lol
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2017, 06:12:51 AM »

Dave, you have caught the Portland disease! Lol

But , don't worry too much , Dave . It's not usually fatal . Cheesy

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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2017, 06:35:41 AM »

Dave, I saw that a Wauseon too. That really appears to be a complete survivor. Glad it found a home. Wasn't much Simplex a Wauseon. But there sure was alot of other cool stuff. Congrats! See you at Portland next year. Bob
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2017, 05:34:23 PM »

Thanks guys,

Yes, I know I have the Portland illness. I think it's great that I've found me another 47'.

The guys I bought it from says it runs. The tank and gas needs to be cleaned out. I will report after it gets some fresh gas.
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2017, 04:44:04 AM »

Great find Dave. Will you be doing a complete restore on this '47 also? Rick C.
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2017, 09:08:04 AM »

Great find Dave. Will you be doing a complete restore on this '47 also? Rick C.

I'm not sure at this point. To redo the chrome might be out of my operating capital. I might just do a survivor style with a little love added in. :-)
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2017, 09:42:03 AM »

Dave ,

I wonder if maybe zinc would satisfy you as a 'replacement' for that chrome .

Eitek1 offered the idea to me a short while ago :


I'm picking up on the back end of the thread so I may not have all the details but have you thought about electrolysis for rust removal? You'd have to take your engine apart to do it but you could follow up with a zinc plating and I'm betting it would look new. Also you wouldn't have to worry about some weird heat retention effect from the coating.

You can do this all in your garage with a little experimenting to make sure your settings and solutions are correct.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Electrolytic-Rust-Removal-aka-Magic/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gxq4rmzfxac


I did a bit more research and came up with the following 'formula' :

"Grepper's summary of what he'd read.

Electroplating occurs in an electrolytic substance of free ions which are the carriers of electric current.  Here this is, Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) and Vinegar (acid).   Connected to the positive of an electric power source an anode made of zinc, attracting negatively charged ions causing Oxidation.   At the negative side of the power source is the cathode, attracting positively charged cations, moving ions away toward the anode. Here it provides electrons to the cations to convert them back to the parent metal (zinc).  This process is called reduction.

In short, the zinc leaves the positive side and binds itself to the negative side.

Supplies:
Various measuring cups, postal scale for measuring by weight, copper pipe and wire, and a plastic tub.
Epsom salts (pharmacy section of your local grocery store)
White Vinegar (baking section of your local grocery store)
Zinc Sulfate (available online, reduces time and increases quality of the plating)
Karo brand corn syrup.  (baking section of your local grocery store, contains glucose that acts as a brightener by keeping the zinc crystals in alignment)
Zinc Anode, (online or in home stores in desert climates as it’s used for evaporative (swamp) coolers)
A DC Power Supply, low amps (1A to 300mA).



Solution:
4.5 liters water ( 1.18 Gallons )
300 grams Epsom salts ( 10.58 Ounces )
100 grams zinc sulfate ( 3.53 Ounces )
200ml of white vinegar ( .85 Cups )
1/3 bottle of corn syrup

Stir in plastic tub till dissolved.

Setup:
Suspend Zinc Anode(s) in solution and hook up to positive of DC Power Supply.
Have copper bar go across top of the plastic tub, copper wires wrapped around bar, so you can suspend parts in solution without touching Zinc Anode(s)."


I'm sure it wouldn't be as shiny / reflective as chrome , but it'd be fairly durable and it seems pretty cheap to accomplish .

Pete . Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2017, 09:47:55 AM »

The saying,  : Chrome don't get ya Home"  only applies at the race track.  Go for it!  Don't see a lot of chrome on Servi's.  Be like Johnny cash if you have to.  "one piece at a time"!  LoL
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2017, 10:02:38 AM »

Pete,

Sounds simple enough. I will have to keep that on the table. Not really sure where I'm going to end up yet, but thanks for putting that out there.

I'm first going to try just see how much a can clean up the chrome with just plain old Coke and aluminum foil. If it cleans up decent and I can buff it up and wax it, that may decide where I go with my restoration.
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2017, 03:45:41 AM »

Did ya put some fresh gas in that ole servi yet!?
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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2017, 12:36:18 PM »

Yes I did. Three kicks and she started right up! Hadn't been started in over three years.
I'm in the process of taking it a part. Hope to get it all broken down before the snow flies. That way I can work on the little stuff over the winter. Then if all goes as planed I will be able to put it back together in the spring and have me a new running scooter. :-)
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